I got the dream job for every young car enthusiast

30.03.2021
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Eric DeJesus tells the story of finding the perfect first job for a young car enthusiast and some of the craziness that ensued.
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  • If I ever buy a Ferrari, I'm totally going to be like Nicolas cage in Gone in 60 seconds.

    ThePandaganstaThePandagansta27 päivää sitten
  • Thumbnail photo is Ferrari of Fort Lauderdale. Jusayn

    Mike GMike G28 päivää sitten
  • When I lived in LA I worked for a production company and the couple I worked for had a helicopter and a couple airplanes and some pretty nice cars. They had a 1989 911 Cabrio with a whale tail in guards red with only 29,000 miles. It was absolutely mint inside and out. One day while driving my boss back to his house up in the Hollywood hills in my E30 BMW he saw me going up and down through the gears. He said I like the way you drive I need for you to drive the Porsche once a month. I said what what?! He said yeah take it out monthly for an Italian tune-up. That was the first time I'd heard that term. For all the years I worked for them I drove that car every month. That was indeed a dream come true because that's been my dream except as a hard top all my life. It's still what I'm building up to since air-cooled 911 prices have gone berserk. 💯😎

    Eric JayEric JayUukausi sitten
  • At first glance. This dude looks like dak Prescott

    IRON MIKEIRON MIKEUukausi sitten
  • That tech pulled a Brad Pitt in Snatch by getting called out and completely knocking out the job quickly

    Zig ZagZig ZagUukausi sitten
  • Why does he sound like he is making up this story?

    jtgolden1sjtgolden1sUukausi sitten
  • seeing the laferrari on the lift makes me nervous

    Morph Suit ManMorph Suit ManUukausi sitten
  • No no we are never gonna let you drive these things!🤣😆😅🥺

    riley shepherdriley shepherdUukausi sitten
  • I stumbled my way into a Porter job for the service department of the large Porsche dealer back in 2015, I ended my stint as a service advisor at said dealership in 2018. Three years of massive stress but also driving insane stuff and even going to PCNA in Atlanta for “training” aka driving on the Porsche experience center test track multiple times. Best job ever.

    Samuel StarkeySamuel StarkeyUukausi sitten
  • I really appreciate you sharing this. I have a similar "How did I get this lucky?" story. When I was in high school, through a family friend I got a job at a car shop. Like you, I knew nothing about cars so my job was cleaning stuff, either keeping cars dusted or cleaning oil/fluids off parts. The company was owned by a former race car driver and consisted of two locations. The year is 1987 so the Ferrari Testarossa and Lamborghini Countach were the top of the exotic car world. Location one was the sales showroom. This is where he met clients and sold aftermarket parts like Recaro seats and Momo rims. In his showroom he had on display a Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona, a BMW M1, Ferrari 512BB and a Mercedes 600 limo with the Pullman seats. Location two, the shop, was one street away. At this location he kept another Mercedes 600, a Porsche 930, two Ferrari 330 GT2+2 and his crown jewel, one of the first 50 Competition Spec 1965 Shelby 427 Cobras. I never got to drive any of the exotics, the best I got to do was ferry vehicles to and from customer's homes including a BMW 733i, Jaguar XJS V-12 and a Mercedes 500SL but I have sat in both the Cobra and the M1. For a 16 year old kid this is one step from heaven. You are fortunate to have this opportunity. I know how you felt.

    Matthew SpeedMatthew SpeedUukausi sitten
  • This is how your dad thinks you’re supposed to get a job

    CowCopCowCopUukausi sitten
  • everyone was like"you want to have the time of your life"

    Infinite speedInfinite speedUukausi sitten
  • I applied for lot porter in vw he he.

    Jsjsjajansb DudhusjaJsjsjajansb DudhusjaUukausi sitten
  • I have a very similar story. I work as a valet at an Audi Dealership. Started when I was 17. Have driven lots of amazing cars. And learned a lot about the business

    ethan wasylynaethan wasylynaUukausi sitten
  • thats one kind of prank i wouldnt get mad about

    Trex 123Trex 123Uukausi sitten
  • great story!

    Mark KMark KUukausi sitten
  • I work at benz, & it’s certainly a very interesting place to work at similar to this

    CigavetteCigavetteUukausi sitten
  • In 2012 I got a job at Penske Automotive Group for their dealerships in North Scottsdale. The job was taking photos of cars, getting the technical information, and upload them to the website. So it was 6 hours of photographing cars and 2 hours behind the computer. We had a set format for everything so you could photograph up to 30 cars a day. Day One: trainer says well lets go get the Lamborghini and photograph it. Immediately puts my in the car and says this is the best way to learn. I was blown away. Overall the job was awesome. I worked my way up very quickly to being the photographer for all their high line dealers (Lambo, Ferrari, Rolls, Aston, Bentley, Bugatti). The high line cars required more work then just your basic Audi or BMW. It was great getting to take a Ferrari or whatnot for about 30 minutes or so and really get to learn it while photographing it. I was later featured on The Chive for having a pretty cool job. I was later hired at Ferrari of Seattle to head their photography department, but life took a different direction.

    Twisting TerrainTwisting TerrainUukausi sitten
  • I worked at Ferrari of Central Florida when I was 18 in 2000-2001 and it was the best first job ever! I remember plenty of great stories and remember Russ very well. Russ drove 175 mph in that F40 LM on a city street with me in the passenger seat and he put out a FIRE in our 360 challenge car when we were racing in Sebring with Ryan Hunter-Reay as our co driver. No end to the stories of working there!

    COL_KLYNK GAMINGCOL_KLYNK GAMINGUukausi sitten
  • Great stories from this guy. Has a knack for telling it.

    The Anti-Nowhere LaneThe Anti-Nowhere LaneUukausi sitten
  • Im not sure who this guy is buuuuut I like him! Very relatable and great Video!

    tony66autony66auUukausi sitten
  • The lead tech should have then said "I want book time for that job, at my applicable hourly rate. Now I'm going fishing for a week."

    Tony RuleTony RuleUukausi sitten
  • Would’ve been a cool story if I didn’t have two ads every thirty seconds.

    steven pagesteven pageUukausi sitten
  • this story feels short

    Heero yuyHeero yuyUukausi sitten
  • +1 for the Mama’s Boy shirt.

    David ManningDavid ManningUukausi sitten
  • Ohh 4 hours work and billed for 50 hours I smell a b is for buhjustake my sheet build

    Billy HellboyBilly HellboyUukausi sitten
  • I broke down in Mama's Boy parking lot a few weeks ago 😂. Grabbed a cup of coffee from them and replaced the pesky roll pin. It kinda feels weird seeing your town in the spotlight.

    Collin BarrowsCollin BarrowsUukausi sitten
  • I went to Ferrari of Centeral Florida when I was 15 or so and they let me sit in a LaFerrari!

    SlaynanSlaynanUukausi sitten
  • Stream of consciousness car stories just don't cut it.

    SIXPACFISHSIXPACFISHUukausi sitten
  • I absolutely loved this story! I started as a detailer for a GM dealership at 18, now I work in an auto shop where I've done body work and turned wrenches on amazing cars. I love going to work everyday I feel as though I've found what I want to do!

    Pat ZimaPat ZimaUukausi sitten
  • Best first job for a car enthusiast would be an apprentiship with a good detailer. You will get to see some really cool, and really gross cars. You will also learn to take proper care of a vehicle.

    JBird117JBird117Uukausi sitten
  • Thank u mr bolian

    Josh JohnsonJosh JohnsonUukausi sitten
  • I got a job at age 17 working at Ferrari of Austin. Sales and Marketing internship which led to a part time gig throughout the rest of high school. Absolutely incredible experience as a young automotive enthusiast. Many fun stories.

    Mr. ATXMr. ATXUukausi sitten
    • @GoldenGames 3935 It was outstanding. I learned a ton about the industry. Certainly changed my perspective on some things!

      Mr. ATXMr. ATXUukausi sitten
    • That must've been a amazing job

      GoldenGames 3935GoldenGames 3935Uukausi sitten
  • Bahah 90s Ferrari immobilizers are the beesstttt lolol

    DOWORK EXOTICSDOWORK EXOTICSUukausi sitten
  • My first job was as a valet for a Mercedes dealer. Wa also used to valet cars for service from their houses to the dealer and back. Give an 18 year old an S55 to "deliver". Sure.. what a job.

    Brian DavisBrian DavisUukausi sitten
  • Parking Valets..!

    Chris P. BaconChris P. BaconUukausi sitten
  • I know the dealer he is speaking of. Met the owner and several of the salesman working at the Autoshow. They are a really good group of people. There is so much more that goes on with sales of those cars and events they do I had no idea about. You would be amazed how much they will let you see and tell you if you ask and listen.

    Adam LangenbahnAdam LangenbahnUukausi sitten
  • I had a similarish experience a few days in. "Hop in that car and meet me at tech" *actually made it to tech. And didnt stall leaving tech. *

    Daniel AndersonDaniel AndersonUukausi sitten
  • Pretty sure Ferrari will have an issue with this video, as they do everything.

    JokerJokerUukausi sitten
  • I got to move our dealers Carrera GT and 918 and drove almost almost every modern Porsche ever because we had to drive them from our lots and gas them up. I even got to drive a handful of classic cars since we were a certified classic dealer. I would also do any task my dealer needed such driving documents to customers, delivering cars, anything really. I got to drive all over LA in super nice Porsche's and get paid as my dealers Lot Manager at only 22. All because I started as a car washer at an Audi dealership that needed one guy for its Porsche location.

    FoxhoundFoxhoundUukausi sitten
  • You know you're a good tech when your service manager hands you a repair order with 20-30 hours of work and the tells you the customer is leaving in the vehicle in 7 hours for a family vacation. When things need to get done, it doesn't matter how long its suppose to take. It only matters what the deadline is

    Jake KJake KUukausi sitten
  • I've passed that dealer a couple if times when I first moved to Orlando and I always wanted to work there but I could never catch them hiring, now they're moving to a newer larger location so hopefully I have a shot 😁

    KGL NeroKGL NeroUukausi sitten
  • 4 hours for a 40 hour job. What I heard was everytime I send in my Tributo I'm paying 10x what any work should truly should cost....

    Clem FandangoClem FandangoUukausi sitten
  • I washed Karl Malones twin turbski in 1989. I was a dealer tech working xtra hours as a detailer

    Christopher PufferChristopher PufferUukausi sitten
  • I'm currently working as the Internal advisor/Aftersales Ambassador for the oldest Ferrari dealer in the USA! I get the pleasure of seeing an F40, F50, Enzo, 288 GTO, 599 GTO, and a Euro spec Diablo Roadster almost every day! Great way to enter the industry and make the connections required to be successful.

    TristasticTristasticUukausi sitten
  • Hey quick question. Lancia delta it’s Italian someone must have a story!?

    yo-yo Tyo-yo TUukausi sitten
  • I worked at a dealership in high school and university. Learned to drive stick and spread out the "errors" over a hundred or so cars. Good times!

    V CV CUukausi sitten
  • Id prolly struggle with takin the engine out in 4h

    Der KerlDer KerlUukausi sitten
  • This man was let in a dealership after closing with multiple F40's when he clearly wasn't going to buy one, and got a job offer. Yet when I visited my local Ferrari dealership I was kicked out when taking pictures because I was 'in the way of business', still stuck with me many years afterwards.

    FastexoticcarsFastexoticcarsUukausi sitten
    • Did you ask first, if you could take pictures of their business?

      Ron FrameRon FrameUukausi sitten
  • Did the dealership charge the customer for 4.5 hours or the book time of 40-50 hours?

    Billyj ClintonBillyj ClintonUukausi sitten
    • As nice as they apparently were, they're still a dealership...

      Tony RuleTony RuleUukausi sitten
  • So relatable, I'm 21 and i work for a bmw service centre,found this job just by pure luck and passion(didn't study at all for this) and i love it, i get to drive everyday cars that just one year ago i would dream of

    Heisenberg 99Heisenberg 99Uukausi sitten
  • Wow I can only dream of things like this.

    Wild Mods & EditsWild Mods & EditsUukausi sitten
  • When I had my Aston Martin Vantage I would tell people all the time if they could start it and release the hand brake they could drive it. On top of the glass key nobody could figure out the hand brake since it always stayed in the down position.

    Kyle PetreeKyle PetreeUukausi sitten
    • That's epic! Telling them to release the handbrake and it's down already😂

      LikuidIzeLikuidIzeUukausi sitten
  • The other half of the title reads. (And managed to have no cool stories about it)

    YZ RippinYZ RippinUukausi sitten
  • 2000: Walking past a random Ferrari dealership: Hey, want a job? Great, you start tomorrow. 2020: After 200 resumes, I finally got 2 job interview and it was 2 rejection.

    Mr GunslingerMr GunslingerUukausi sitten
  • As a person who has worked at a dealer for 5 years as a porter/detailer and a father Who is in the aviation business I can fully attest to mechanics showing up at 8am not doing any work until about 10ish, going to lunch at 11:50ish and then coming back around 1 then leaving for the day at 4:30.

    AerodynamicAerodynamicUukausi sitten
    • Yes, I work at one now and I am probably the only one who works before lunch and il be honest, lazily

      gamingar gamingargamingar gamingar2 päivää sitten
    • @EVS or the right one depending on how you look at it 😂

      Robert MagnusonRobert MagnusonUukausi sitten
    • You must have been working at the wrong dealer.

      EVSEVSUukausi sitten
  • I bet I still couldn't start it

    Jersey JosephJersey JosephUukausi sitten
  • Yawn this guy sucks feels like hes telling someone elses story

    YZ RippinYZ RippinUukausi sitten
  • One of the best jobs I ever had was washing cars at a big dealership. I drove a lot of cars that most people only fantasize about

    Chris MChris MUukausi sitten
  • Cool !!!!!!!! 👍🙂😉👌

    THROTTLE POWERTHROTTLE POWERUukausi sitten
  • I am really happy for this guy! Not only it´s just absolutely awesome to be around these cars all day long, but also because i´m in a similiar situation right now. Starting a job as engineering intern at a major german oem next week and could not be happier!

    NixNixUukausi sitten
    • Congrats and goodluck

      Nasir YusufNasir YusufUukausi sitten
  • How to get a dream job, show up on the day someone got fired and start licking the windows, got it.

    DSDftw!!!DSDftw!!!Uukausi sitten
  • nice dream recall!

    Rem USRem USUukausi sitten
  • Book calls for days, tech's done in a few hours. What's wrong with this picture?

    jeff Jamesjeff JamesUukausi sitten
  • It’s mesmerizing from someone who doesn’t even know how cars work. Or if the work is even being done properly or not. No. Shit.

    Nathan BrameNathan BrameUukausi sitten
  • Lead tech * finishes the job in 4.5 hrs * Service advisor talking customer: Yeah took a little longer, about 58 hours total.

    djsoniccdjsoniccUukausi sitten
    • @TKING2724 "we had 3 guys working on it, around the clock. Honestly, you're getting a deal, we didn't pay them overtime."

      Dream0AsylumDream0Asylum28 päivää sitten
    • Customer: >Staring at their completed car only 24 hours later looking skeptical.

      TKING2724TKING2724Uukausi sitten
  • Lead techs are the soul of the business.

    Jefe Z71Jefe Z71Uukausi sitten
  • The best stories, ever.

    T CT CUukausi sitten
  • I'm currently working my first job as a detailer for a Lincoln dealership and I was able to relate to almost everything in these stories. Really, if you're an enthusiast and you're looking for a job where you get to drive and experience cars and the industry, detailing for a dealership is the best way to go.

    Aidan CastroAidan CastroUukausi sitten
    • @JBird117 that’s awesome dude.

      ZAIN ALIZAIN ALIUukausi sitten
    • I detailed with a boutique detail shop when I was 16. It was pretty awesome, got to work on some really nice cars. Then I detailed for a Saturn dealership, good pay but the cars were trash. Eventually ended up with a group of guys who bought high end cars from auctions and shipped them wherever they went. Was able to detail and drive some cool cars, Evo Mr, lingenfelter z06, bunch of amg cars. Multiple m cars, Ferraris, lambos, audis. It was fun.

      JBird117JBird117Uukausi sitten
  • Kind of reminds me of myself. When I started working at Brabus HQ I couldn’t believe it. The cars you see and drive and the insight you get into the supercar industry and the people you meet is just incredible!

    JustinsSupercarsJustinsSupercarsUukausi sitten
  • This... was a super cool one. If only the exotics dealers I stalked, wait, "frequented", as a teen in the Northeast were so chill, maybe I'd be next in Ed's chair instead of behind my own camera. I definitely lived vicariously through this one. And as a lifelong 355 (victim? masochist?) fan, seeing the whole major done in a few hours. Wow. More likely to see a Martian walk in.

    Wolfchild ProductionsWolfchild ProductionsUukausi sitten
  • I'm working as a porter right now (over a year at this point) for Lamborghini, Ferrari, Bentley, Lotus, Porsche, Maserati, sometimes Aston Martin and Rolls Royce too. I've driven some amazing cars on the road (most notably a 918 Spyder, GT2RS, and LaFerrari) and have gone to some cool houses but I'm almost at my breaking point. Upper management isn't the greatest here and I'm the only one in this department so I get all of the work. My job is only fun now about 5% of the time (when I get to road test something). Feels like a dead-end job where I'm at and my experience the past couple months has just made me want to quit and never come back to the automotive industry even though I really love these cars. Only way I can see myself being happy is if I'm miraculously handed a job where I drive these on a track all day or something. Don't know what to do...

    Brady KBrady KUukausi sitten
  • So.......🤷‍♂️

    Dean WoodsDean WoodsUukausi sitten
  • I love how this is in Orlando. I swear, the dealers down here are the coolest!

    JavTheRipperJavTheRipperUukausi sitten
  • Ferrari 355 Belt Swap Any% w/ checks 4:30:00.

    James HenthornJames HenthornUukausi sitten
  • from now on i will demand my mini john cooper works get its service done in 15 minutes

    BRANDON FROM LONDON UKBRANDON FROM LONDON UKUukausi sitten
    • @Nathan Brame if that guy can take out a ferrari engine and put it back in 4 and a half hours surely my mini dealers can service my car in 15 minutes 😀

      BRANDON FROM LONDON UKBRANDON FROM LONDON UKUukausi sitten
    • Impossible on a mini

      Nathan BrameNathan BrameUukausi sitten
  • I worked at a BMW body shop for 13 months and we had some exotics too. Had to have meetings on not disclosing who wrecked their car sometimes!

    Dominick DolioDominick DolioUukausi sitten
  • Because of this video I will be applying for a job at a dealership

    blaise singletonblaise singletonUukausi sitten
  • FLAT RATE

    NSXavierTVNSXavierTVUukausi sitten
  • I can attest to how friendly and nice the Ferrari of Central Florida was in 200. I met some of the employees at the Orlando International Car Show and they allowed me access to the cars behind the ropes for a few minutes. I think I was 15 at the time. I wish I could have worked there but it was just too far for me. I was about an hour and a half away.

    1984Porthos1984PorthosUukausi sitten
  • Haha I know this place. He's right it is something to drool over.

    DanielDanielUukausi sitten
    • Back when I worked in Orlando, I would say a prayer each day as I pulled onto the I~4 parking lot. "Lord, let me get to work safe and on time, if not, let me be stuck in front of the Ferrari dealership. In Enzo's name I pray 🙏 Amen❗

      Gregorious AnomalousGregorious AnomalousUukausi sitten
  • I’ve been there not so long ago!!!! I saw a Dino there too aswell as a monza sp1 and a laferrari f12 tdf a roma they are stacked up

    Ryder ThibodeauRyder ThibodeauUukausi sitten
  • All I got from this is one this guy got paid to do nothing and that dealerships *can* do the job in

    GG WPGG WPUukausi sitten
  • That 355 F1 😍😍😍🥰

    BLAKE DA GREATBLAKE DA GREATUukausi sitten
  • Was visiting relatives in Tampa in my 944, decided to let a local dealer in Tampa replace the engine mounts. Service writer had a thick German accent and drove a later model 356; "Ve vill have your car repaired in one hour". In an hour not only did they have the new mounts installed but washed and test drove the car. Wish I could remember the dealer name but was thoroughly impressed.

    John FarrJohn FarrUukausi sitten
  • Great story. Right place right time right attitude

    M WM WUukausi sitten
  • Right after this video imma start applying to every racing school here

    Nesh VlogsNesh VlogsUukausi sitten
    • @djsonicc hahah thanks dude maybe both of us will be featured sometime

      Nesh VlogsNesh VlogsUukausi sitten
    • @Nesh Vlogs Well, I hope you make it !

      djsoniccdjsoniccUukausi sitten
    • @djsonicc haha I wish I could be featured but doubt that will ever happen 😅

      Nesh VlogsNesh VlogsUukausi sitten
    • Can't wait to watch your story on VinWiki bro

      djsoniccdjsoniccUukausi sitten
  • I don't think it's the perfect job per say, but his passion as a car guy that for him he was able to get so close to the cars he fancied and could enjoy and appreciate them in that manner on that job.

    Rohan AggarwalRohan AggarwalUukausi sitten
  • I applied for a technician assistant job at my local Ferrari dealer but sadly didn’t get the job. Would have been amazing working at the same place as a one:1, 2 regeras, a huayr, the SP30, LaFs, and so much more

    KingASE88KingASE88Uukausi sitten
  • That's an amazing story. I went to a Ferarri dealership in Miami and only saw 458s and 488s.

    Brendan HandBrendan HandUukausi sitten
  • What was the point of this because it was not a story. I guess you have to know these people or have been there

    Nicholas DouglasNicholas DouglasUukausi sitten
  • As a VinWiki channel subscriber, I continue to enjoy these stories, and appreciate the fact you are continuing to produce new content. However, I am not a fan of the new 'intro' sequence. Could you bring back the old sequence instead?

    sct913sct913Uukausi sitten
  • What a great story and awesome experience to have had.

    AdamKing60AdamKing60Uukausi sitten
  • I gonna go apply at my local Ferrari dealership.

    Julio LozanoJulio LozanoUukausi sitten
  • Love the fact this story takes place in my backyard pretty much

    LeSMOKE ALOT ESQUAIRLeSMOKE ALOT ESQUAIRUukausi sitten
  • Why did you disassemble that Ferrari so quickly Private Gump?!?! Because you told me to service manager??

    M equals 13M equals 13Uukausi sitten
  • Thank you Eric and Ed, this is really what I needed today! I’m getting started in the automotive industry, and I had a difficult day. This made me feel more positive immediately!

    David BrownDavid BrownUukausi sitten
  • This is just like me. I'm 18 and have been working on a Porsche race team for the last two years and it's been a blast. Great first job that I love going to every day. It's also been on Vinwiki (Thanks Randy Pobst!).

    Max FliearmanMax FliearmanUukausi sitten
    • @Max Fliearman wait so you wrote him a letter for a tour basically, just as a fan or as a prospect? I just always figure those companies and racing in general seems like such a tight knit thing but no disrespect intended, that's awesome bro hell yeah. 🤘🤘🤘

      Jeff TrinkleJeff TrinkleUukausi sitten
    • @Jeff Trinkle I am very thankful for the opportunity I have but money has nothing to do with it. I met my boss about half a decade ago. I wrote a letter to him asking to tour the facility and began going to see the crew at race weekends at our local Porsche Club Events to see him and the team as much as I could. I networked with the right people and showed that I had the skills to be a part of the team when the opportunity arose which lead to me getting my current position. I don't have anyone in my family that is a customer of the team or even owns a Porsche. Just goes to show that if you meet the right people and show how your skills can benefit them, you can find yourself in great places. It's what you know AND who you know. That's the key to successful networking.

      Max FliearmanMax FliearmanUukausi sitten
    • dude how lol how does that happen. gotta be rich huh? damnit.

      Jeff TrinkleJeff TrinkleUukausi sitten
    • @TheDiamondLord8 fiboth.info/like/videot/oXaXe2TYmNDHd6U

      Max FliearmanMax FliearmanUukausi sitten
    • Some people have all the luck in the world;i would be happy just to see a goddamn Porsche not every second car being an Alto😭💀

      iiBADkARMAiiiiBADkARMAiiUukausi sitten
  • Noice

    Ragdoll RacingRagdoll RacingUukausi sitten
  • I can't believe I'm this early. I hope Ed notices me. 😁 Hi Ed!!!

    Cam BryanCam BryanUukausi sitten
    • Hey!

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